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‘Vulfpeck’ asked fans to exploit an error in SpotifyIt funded an entire tour when it worked...🤔 In 2014, Jack Stratton, the founder of the band Vulfpeck, noticed a loophole in Spotify’s royalty calculation model…Spotify, at the time, would pay out around $0.007 for every “stream”, as long as (1) the player was not on mute, and (2) the track exceeded 30s in length.Jack got an idea 💡 “what if we released an album with 10 tracks - each 31 seconds in length - of complete silence?Then - we ask our most loyal fans to stream the album while they slept?”📝 They calculated that if one fan streamed it for 7 hours while they slept, the band would make $5.88 per night. With even just their 100 truest fans - that is $588 per night.Introducing: 𝗦𝗹𝗲𝗲𝗽𝗶𝗳𝘆 📀 😴 The hit record from Vulfpeck, featuring tracks like “Zz” and “Zzzz” The band released the album in March, 2014, and asked their most loyal fans to break the rules with them so they could fund an ‘admission free’ tour in the fall of 2014.🔁 Vulfpeck pulled it off for nearly two months before Spotify caught wind of it.Spotify ended up pulling the album from the platform, but not before the band made $20k 💸 and funded the tour!𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗼𝗻: It’s easy (and lazy!) to keep asking your 100 top fans/users for more money…or to Buy One. More. Thing. That gets old.Instead ➡️ ask them to join you in some mischief. Something that doesn’t require them to break out the credit card 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯. Ask your top fans to partake in a (non-$$) exercise which [subsequently] fuels your growth as a band or company 📈 You’ll be surprised at how enthusiastically they might turn up for you…and how others will want to join in!Be like Vulfpeck. 𝗕𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁. **********I help companies build community + product led growth strategies to unlock organic growth 📩 📆 Let's chat.

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Vulfpeck are the kings of using marketing stunts as an extension of their art to build their world & cultivate a genuine identity.Great one, Jack.

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This is one of my all-time favorite videos from Jack Stratton of Vulfpeck where he talks about Spotify. Had me in stitches near the end.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB1sTH7bUQ4

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This was so clever, I was always surprised Spotify didn't use this as a dope co-marketing opportunity instead of shutting it down

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Jon Goldmann

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MSCHF did this a few years ago and it was awesome (less the sleep thing, more giving regular people the loophole to exploit)

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I love track 9 of that album

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"Ask them to join you in some mischief" - couldn't agree more & that's hilarious they pulled this off.

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Brilliant.

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Love this

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Brilliant. I now need to check this band out on principal. Thanks for sharing!

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I remember for "Schvitz" in their music video and tour they sold Sauna related merch. Brilliant!!

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    Songtradr now hinting at layoffs coming for newly acquired BandcampHere were my concerns aboutEpic Games’ sale of Bandcamp and how it reminds me ofthe Last.fm acquisition#music #tech #superfans #acquisition https://lnkd.in/d2ndgBEV

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    What does AI + Music actually sound like? 🤔The band Vulfpeck just released an original song where the lead singer might sound oddly familiar. That's because he's been "processed through a vocal model of young michael jackson". The result is pretty wild (link below).The creative possibilities for the future of music are rapidly expanding. It's not farfetched to envision a future grammy winning vocalist who has 12 tracks on their album with 12 unique voices...#AI#Music#MusicTechhttps://lnkd.in/e2G8KRRc

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    ❌ Misconception = "Build better music discovery products to grow the pie" ✅ Reality = Build better self expression products to grow the pie🗣 Don't give people a better radio...give them a better microphoneGen-Z is resorting to texting song links (est. 1994), and buying Vinyl (est. 1930) as their two technologies for music self expression today. This is a huge opportunity for new tech.Dan Runcie Anthems Music Sharing

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